I don't recall him being refered to as Unkle, they just refered to him as “Joey”

For the love of… it takes an extra millasecond to put a “c” instead of a “k” in “uncle”.

I think for many fans it was the beginning of the end in a sense, gone was the show we had at that point thought awesome, but it was quickly become a “kids show” as ABC decided to throw in its two cents about everything even to the point that J. Micheal Straczynski one of the shows major writers left because of the issues, including the “junior ghostbusters” which he hated so much, that if asked to return that he would have to do a episode with them to which he reportedly said “if only I get to run them over with a truck”

just my two cents about it.

The title of this thread needs more Kath Soucie.

I myself am in the camp that says Dave did do a good job in the role. A lot of the episodes that I saw from Season 1 were ones that were redubbed by Dave after Lorenzo passed (ie Mrs Rogers Neighborhood) and I had never seen the Music version of that episode until I got the DVDs. I thought Dave did a more natural reading as Venkman and not as a Bill Murray impersonator in that episode. Don't get me wrong, I like Lorenzo. To me, they are on the same step when I think of the voice of Peter Venkman for the cartoon.

Kath as the second Janine on the other hand…well, thats not the actress' fault. But I really didn't like the replacement. She did do a pretty ok job on the redubbing (again Mrs Rogers Neighborhood) but my dislike of her Janine is probably just that I didn't like her new design as much as the nasally Brooklynite.

He was always referred to as Uncle Joey.


Don't even try to lie.

I do believe that ABC sort of constricted everyone, not just Coulier and the other VAs. Look at Len Jansen and Chuck Menville…in the first season they wrote classics such as Killerwatt and Mrs. Rogers Neighborhood, in the last season they produced crap like Stay Tooned and Not Now, Slimer.

The voice changes coincided with a change in direction for the show and nothing could compete with the first season.

The show went from great to very good and eventually down to average.

I think there is just something Lorenzo Music's voice that was likeable. It was down to earth, it didn't feel forced and it worked perfectly with a dry sense of humor. I think for most people, it just set the bar really high and no one could match. Heck, Frank Welker is a VO Legend and his Garfield can't match Lorenzo's.

As for Soucie, I just don't think she was right for the part. The voice felt all wrong. Janine went from a smart allecky Brooklyn chick to someone who sounded like one of the Junior Ghostbusters.

In the end Ghostbusters was a victim of its own success. The minute something catches on, people who weren't creative enough to come up with the idea in the first place try to fix it. It happens with almost every successful cartoon and Ghostbusters also happened to come out around the time that both Neo-Cons and Bleeding Hearts were at the peak of their “Save the Children” cruisades.

I really want to reply to this thread, but all I can think of is that I don't think Dave Coulier really gets any grief over this… Lorenzo Music was the first and will always be “the best” as a result…

For the record, he was NEVER referred to as “Uncle Joey” on “Full House”. I'm ashamed to be so certain of that but I am.

I was born in ‘81. “Ghostbusters” is the first movie I remember seeing (though due to my age I’m certain it must have been the ‘85 re-release where the film ended up outgrossing “Beverly Hills Cop”) and I think back on a lot of the comedy I enjoyed in my early teens or earlier and it’s easy to think I was pretty cool because I still enjoy most of them to this day. “The Simpsons”. “Kids in the Hall”. “SNL” (both classic and “modern” at the time), “SCTV”, etc.

Then almost immediately I think of how I religiously watched “Full House” during that same time and all of a sudden I want to travel back in time and savagely kick my younger self's ass.

But yeah, the crap Coulier gets is well-deserved. You hear people bitching about when Kath Soucie took over for Janine and you might even see some bitching about Billy West replacing Frank Welker on “EGB” but you don't really see people aiming that stuff at Soucie or West because they're actually respected in animation circles. They're the real deal.

Coulier, on the other hand, couldn't be lamer. Between embarrassing gigs like “Full House” and his hosting gig on “America's Funniest People” and truly sleazy things like dating a 15-year-old Alanis Morissette when he was 30 you have a guy who actually does deserve the animosity.

The thing is, if he actually did a good job that would be one thing but again, we're talking about Dave Coulier here. Like every one of his impersonations his Murray/Venkman was passable at best. The reason Coulier found himself in the dreck that personified his career is simple: he did a lot of impressions that weren't really any better than your average person's impression.

So yeah, ultimately I hope everyone reads this post and starts hating Dave Coulier even more than they already do.