GuruAskew;151150
So yeah, ultimately I hope everyone reads this post and starts hating Dave Coulier even more than they already do.

I'd say your post is actually more likely to trigger the opposite reaction, Bubba.

GuruAskew;151150
For the record, he was NEVER referred to as “Uncle Joey” on “Full House”. I'm ashamed to be so certain of that but I am.

I was born in ‘81. “Ghostbusters” is the first movie I remember seeing (though due to my age I’m certain it must have been the ‘85 re-release where the film ended up outgrossing “Beverly Hills Cop”) and I think back on a lot of the comedy I enjoyed in my early teens or earlier and it’s easy to think I was pretty cool because I still enjoy most of them to this day. “The Simpsons”. “Kids in the Hall”. “SNL” (both classic and “modern” at the time), “SCTV”, etc.

Then almost immediately I think of how I religiously watched “Full House” during that same time and all of a sudden I want to travel back in time and savagely kick my younger self's ass.

But yeah, the crap Coulier gets is well-deserved. You hear people bitching about when Kath Soucie took over for Janine and you might even see some bitching about Billy West replacing Frank Welker on “EGB” but you don't really see people aiming that stuff at Soucie or West because they're actually respected in animation circles. They're the real deal.

Coulier, on the other hand, couldn't be lamer. Between embarrassing gigs like “Full House” and his hosting gig on “America's Funniest People” and truly sleazy things like dating a 15-year-old Alanis Morissette when he was 30 you have a guy who actually does deserve the animosity.

The thing is, if he actually did a good job that would be one thing but again, we're talking about Dave Coulier here. Like every one of his impersonations his Murray/Venkman was passable at best. The reason Coulier found himself in the dreck that personified his career is simple: he did a lot of impressions that weren't really any better than your average person's impression.

So yeah, ultimately I hope everyone reads this post and starts hating Dave Coulier even more than they already do.

To quote a Bill Murray line in GB2… “I think you're all nuts”… I'm sure Dave Coulier has alot of restless nights because some RGB fans on a forum on the internet don't like him as much as Lorenzo Music. I don't understand why you loved to watch Full House if you hated Joey THAT much? That whole show was lame, not just Joey so the mere fact that you “loved” it means you must have a pretty lame sense of humour yourself. Seems like you have a real hard on for the guy…

Dave Coulier was hired to replace Lorenzo Music as Peter Venkman. He did as good of a job as he could but obviously he would never sound 100% like Lorenzo Music's Venkman did. If you are really that hung up on this, I feel sorry for you…

To quote a Bill Murray line in GB2… “I think you're all nuts”… I'm sure Dave Coulier has alot of restless nights because some RGB fans on a forum on the internet don't like him as much as Lorenzo Music.

No but I bet he does spend a lot of restless nights thinking about how he can't find decent or steady work.

I don't understand why you loved to watch Full House if you hated Joey THAT much?

The thing is, I didn't hate him at the time. It was only once I started to grow older that I realized what an absolute vacuum of talent he is. That goes for the entire “Full House” cast for the most part.

That whole show was lame, not just Joey so the mere fact that you “loved” it means you must have a pretty lame sense of humour yourself.

Did you not read the part where I said I'd like to travel back in time and kick my own ass?

Seems like you have a real hard on for the guy…

I don't get how I'd have a hard on for a guy I hate but lame gay-jokes aside it's not that I sit around and bash on Dave Coulier all day. He's faded into obscurity and rightfully so and I think the universe is balanced in that respect. There are hacks that are enormously successful like Dane Cook and Seth MacFarlane and I see their success as great comedic injustice but Dave Coulier is a hack and the whole world seems to be on the same page when it comes to that belief, and again, I think it's deserved.

Dave Coulier was hired to replace Lorenzo Music as Peter Venkman. He did as good of a job as he could

And that's my whole problem: throughout a career that has literally spanned decades Dave Coulier's best has simply never been any good.

but obviously he would never sound 100% like Lorenzo Music's Venkman did. If you are really that hung up on this, I feel sorry for you…

Trust me, it could be worse.

I could be on the internet defending Dave Coulier.

CUT… IT… OUT!

Coulier won a voiceover Emmy for his work on Muppet Babies. Surely that shows that he's not completely devoid of talent? (and bear in mind that I've never seen Full House or any of his stand-up performances).

But seriously, though, posting on a message board in an attempt to rouse hate against a D-list comedian? Come on.

Coulier won a voiceover Emmy for his work on Muppet Babies.

If anything this just illustrates how worthless the Emmy is. Edit: I can't actually find a credible source that proves that he won this anyway. Maybe he did, I just can't find the info.

But seriously, though, posting on a message board in an attempt to rouse hate against a D-list comedian? Come on.

Like I said, posting in defense of said D-list comedian is far worse.

Literally the only reason for defending Coulier I can think of is if you're the kind of fan who simply cannot be critical of a part of something you love. Every fanbase has fans like this, the ones who can't admit when their favorite band makes a bad album etc. You can dress it up in the whole “he wasn't the one who fired Lorenzo!” argument all you want but again, I'm not sitting here bashing Kath Soucie.

Coulier has a truly awful 30-year-old body of work. Period.

The Joker;151217
Coulier won a voiceover Emmy for his work on Muppet Babies. Surely that shows that he's not completely devoid of talent?

Al Gore won the Nobel Peace Prize. Awarding bodies are subject to gross lapses of judgement.

I dunno, I always though Lorenzo Music sounded more like Bill Murray anyway - just check the, “Oh baby, you're my number one christmas boutique gift item!” line from GB2!

GuruAskew;151218
Literally the only reason for defending Coulier I can think of is if you're the kind of fan who simply cannot be critical of a part of something you love. Every fanbase has fans like this, the ones who can't admit when their favorite band makes a bad album etc. You can dress it up in the whole “he wasn't the one who fired Lorenzo!” argument all you want but again, I'm not sitting here bashing Kath Soucie.

I'm not that kind of fan. There are episodes of RGB that give me the dry heaves whenever I try and watch them. And I'm not a huge fan of Coulier's Venkman, as you may have assumed.

Coulier has a truly awful 30-year-old body of work. Period.

Maybe so, but this thread is about his five years as the voice of Dr. Peter Venkman. And if people (who are presumably not possessed of your neverending wisdom, knowledge and truth) want to suggest that he wasn't absolutely awful as Venkman, then they should be able to do so. Come on, it's hardly the most controversial opinion to be found on these boards.

Well I watched full house as a kid, which it was pretty much a show for kids and teens, like Step by Step and Boy Meets World. Almost any show like that you wouldn't be watching now and think it was full on entertaining and great. Just wont happen.

I'm not a fan of Dane Cook at all, but to call him a hack is wrong. He is the most popular comic in the world. He took stand up comedy to a new level where he sold out MSG.You can go ahead and read that last line over if you don't get what a big deal that is, plus when everyone saw his first stand up, including me, thought he was funny. You can't take nothing away from him, he boosted comedy so far up, even if he isn't your style.

Also everyone from full house made alot of money off of it so to say everyone from that show is washed up and hacks is wrong, maybe they don't need to work. Which you do see most of them doing other things, Bob Saget is still doing stand up. Dave Coulier seems like a pretty cool guy. If you don't like him anymore, awesome don't like him, but don't take away what he has done. It seems like you have a vendetta against full house or something.

I'm not a fan of Dane Cook at all, but to call him a hack is wrong. He is the most popular comic in the world. He took stand up comedy to a new level where he sold out MSG.You can go ahead and read that last line over if you don't get what a big deal that is, plus when everyone saw his first stand up, including me, thought he was funny. You can't take nothing away from him, he boosted comedy so far up, even if he isn't your style.

Actually the fact that practically every one of his contemporaries considers him to be a hack and a joke thief kinda “takes it away” from him if you ask me. Sure, he has a mountain of cash (some of which is brother has been embezzling, now he knows how Louis CK felt when he stole 3 comedy bits from a single Louie album) but he's NEVER been respected, and respect is HUGE in comedy. Sorta like how stealing someone else's hard work in comedy is absolutely unacceptable. At the end of the day the Cooks, Mencias and MacFarlanes in the comedy world go home to their huge homes but they're the ones who have to look in the mirror and know they didn't earn their success.

This shouldn't veer off into a Dane Cook bash based on a throwaway line (and there are plenty of places online where Dane Cook-hating is very much on-topic ) but fact of the matter is, popularity and success is never a validation of quality or talent. On the other hand, you have tons of people who think the opposite: that success and popularity automatically invalidates something.

Regardless of whether or not he can sell out a stadium Dane Cook is a hack in the purest sense. He steals jokes, he spends more time marketing than writing material (which is when the thievery comes in handy) and he is successful because he's good-looking and appeals to demographics like teenage girls who simply wouldn't know good comedy if they saw it.

There are obviously tons of lame-as-hell musical groups who routinely sell out large venues and I don't see you coming to their defense. Cook's success doesn't make him a great comedian any more than Britney Spears's success makes her a great musician.

But yeah, back on the subject of Coulier: again, he's one of the cases where the comedy gods actually got it right. He sucks and his career sucks.

Maybe so, but this thread is about his five years as the voice of Dr. Peter Venkman. And if people (who are presumably not possessed of your neverending wisdom, knowledge and truth) want to suggest that he wasn't absolutely awful as Venkman, then they should be able to do so.

Yeah, and if people want to say that his years on RGB sucked as much as every single other thing he ever did during his professional career I think we're entitled to that too. You don't see me starting a thread about how one opinion is deserved and another is not.