elton;162360
Update:

I didn't make it in to the police on Friday, I went in today, Saturday.

They took my piles of paper and examined them and said they'd get back to me, which they now have done. What they're advising me to do now is contact Trading Standards to advise them to contact their department that deal with that area, and possibly pursue a small claims court case as well.

Since we've entered into a civil contract, the police can't deal with it directly, but the Trading Standards people certainly can… since he's also admitted via email that the item has NOT been sent, that leaves him with liability to issue a refund, which has so far failed to materialise. Since we have details of a business, multiple names, phone numbers, addresses and so on, and since there have been multiple victims (with more being likely) they will probably be able to access the bank account on the details I was given to have a closer look at what's going in and out, to ascertain if anything untoward is going on that may merit not only consequences in this instance, but also others that may exist.

I'll be sending an email with lots of attachments in a few hours, and hopefully speak to them on the phone on Monday. The small court claim may also happen depending on the outcome of the conversation with TS.

Thanks for going through all this. Anything you need from me, just let me know.

Well, today is the last day to get any response for venkman1975 on the dispute I opened on paypal against him… tomorrow Paypal will start to investigate and see what we can do…


do you have any news, guys?

Ghostbusters213;162429
Well, today is the last day to get any response for venkman1975 on the dispute I opened on paypal against him… tomorrow Paypal will start to investigate and see what we can do…


do you have any news, guys?

Did you escalate it to a claim or just leave it as a dispute? You need to escalate it to a claim if you haven't yet.

Doctor Venkman;162430
Did you escalate it to a claim or just leave it as a dispute? You need to escalate it to a claim if you haven't yet.

It has already being escalated to claim. Just waiting for the next move.

I got response from paypal, … and I WON THE CASE, in the next 5 days I will get my refund.

This hell has ended.

What about you guys?

Congratulations on the win!

Congrats Ghostbusters213 on your win. At least you got your money back which is a good thing.

Next time I get into a jam, I will call you guys you help me out. lol

Some of you are some great detectives

Thank you guys, but the “Sherlock Holmes” here was Elton, I was kinda of a Watson XD, but paypal did most of the job on my case.

Great news, Ghostbusters213. Hope the others receive similar info soon. Congrats again! Glad to see the good guys win every now and then.

Just an update on the drama for you all.

Glad you got your money back. I'd love to take some credit as Sherlock Holmes, but as you said… it was PayPal.

My own transactions, and possibly several others, are currently a different matter.

I contacted both of the mobile numbers that I have for the seller. One was purchased less than a week ago at Cash Converters in Nottinghamshire, not far from where he lives in Derbyshire. This is good, because UK laws require address and name details to be retained for a good while when accepting second hand goods. Cash Converters should have those details in their books for Trading Standards. He sounded fairly genuine. Also said he's getting calls from loan companies on that number. This means that the previous owner was getting credit checked a lot by getting a lot of quotes, which is accessible to these companies, meaning he's in financial difficulties. Sounds like a motive.

The other number is a little different. I left several messages, received no reply. The voice on the voicemail was someone in his 30s-40s sounding. I tried to call, was cut off. I send text messages, was told the owner is in his 60's and doesn't know anything about it, has owned the phone for 4 years. I asked if I could call, “no, I'm in spain and it will cost me”.

He supplied an area code via text which is located in Bodmin, a long way away. Denies knowledge of Starscream Entertainment, Matthew Else, Kirsty Heard. Despite the fact that his number is listed alongside the business on multiple websites, and the number appears on several proton pack listings, AND listings for a fridge on Gumtree and a computer with instructions to ask for “Matt”. He has no explanation of how his number is on those sites, each refering to “Matt”.

Fun times. I may call the land line number that I have next, it was only listed on one site and has since been pulled, was also referenced in a classified ad for Disco equipment. Harder to get rid of a landline than a mobile number. We'll see.