Gozer, its minions, temple, and history


by CarterKhoury

14 years, 2 months ago


Oh I get It. They sort of changed into SEELE. Correct me if I misread you.

by CarterKhoury

14 years, 2 months ago


And then SEELE replaced the more ritual and mystic means of bringing about the end of the world with technology. I think I understand now. Correct me if I'm wrong. And one thing about Gozer's temple, I noticed that the pyramid on the temple bears a stiking rsemblance to the Pyramid of the Eye on the reverse of the US dollar bill. This is one of the many reasons that gozer's temple is simply covered with Freemason symoblysim.

by Nix

14 years, 2 months ago


Precisely. And, considering that there's a pyramid in the Geofront, and that NERV's operations are a little bit like Ghostbusters in a way…

by ghostbuster_x1

14 years, 2 months ago


Cool info.

Although now I wish I didn't read so much of it lol. :p

This is mainly because I always loved the mystery surrounding Gozer and its minions in Ghostbusters.

*tries to erase memory*

by zeddmore

14 years, 1 month ago


very interesting to read……i like it (^_^)

by CarterKhoury

14 years, 1 month ago


Ghostbuster_X;165036
Cool info.

Although now I wish I didn't read so much of it lol. :p

This is mainly because I always loved the mystery surrounding Gozer and its minions in Ghostbusters.

*tries to erase memory*

LOL. I know. I have always been intruiged by gozer and the mystery and wierdness surrounding it. like those weird clouds in it's realm, or the otherworldly temple, it gives me a strange feeling. i always try to for some reason take evidence and facts and come up w/ my own theory.:-)(*peter)

by ivoshandor1

14 years ago


CarterKhoury;164889
And credit to user Ivo Shandor who inspired my interpretations and did some brilliant work on the subject.

Thanks, CarterKhoury. And I do like your theories.

When I was a bit younger I made up my own Ghostbusters role-playing game and played it with some friends. We invented tons of material on Gozer and the other central beings in the GB mythos.

It's a lot of fun to speculate on this stuff.

For the record (and since the original post is 6 years old) here's what I said (slightly edited):

Ivo Shandor;53304
What exactly do we know about this Sumerian god?

Let's look at its titles.

Gozer the Gozerian - This is an odd title. Is everyone from its plane of existence a “Gozerian”, including the god for which the place is named? Anyone got another explanation?

Gozer the Traveler - Okay…Gozer travels. Between planes of existence, right? How does Gozer get from one place to another? I'd guess the temple/pyramid structure moves, taking Gozer with it. Where does Gozer travel to? Earth? Yes. Other planes of existence? Probably. Why does Gozer travel? Was the god exiled from its own home, and forced to wander? Or is it voluntary?

Gozer the Destructor - Gozer likes destroying things. It comes in one of the pre-chosen forms (like Sloar or Torb) or allows its victims to choose the form of the Destructor. Since Gozer has shown up in the past, there must be ways to banish it when its job is done. There were no Ghostbusters in ancient Sumeria. Who did it? Wizards? Or does it leave voluntarily? Why not stay and rule the place?

Volguus Zildrohar, Lord of the Sebouillia - This is probably Gozer's real name. “Lord” implies it is intrinsically male, although it can be whatever it wants to be, and in the movie it wanted to be a chick, an agile little minx to be exact. What are the Sebouillia? Terror-dog demi-gods? A legion of supplicants and sub-creatures from its place of origin?

I would guess that the Gozer we saw in the first movie wasn't even a full-powered Traveler. Why? I don't believe Gozer had time to establish a strong particle-flow through the gate yet. The GBs were there within moments of Gozer's arrival. Gozer had to reach back toward the gate before unleashing its lightning, and the boys in gray didn't die (even though Gozer said “die” and was presumably trying to kill them). Although I have heard an alternate theory that somehow the proton packs' electromagnetic fields shielded them from the worst of Gozer's lightning.

What happened to Gozer?

Well, with the particle flow reversed, Gozer was unceremoniously booted out of earth's dimension and back into the pyramid-like structure. Its chosen Destructor, Stay Puft, was annhiliated during the explosion which marked the closing of the gate.

I assume the spirits of Vinz and Zuul were also kicked out of earth's dimension and back through the gate.

Where did Gozer go? Who knows! Back to its place of origin? The nearest convenient parallel dimension? Maybe it's hard to get to earth's dimension as opposed to others. I'm sure Gozer and the demigods Vinz and Zuul found some safe haven. I'm also sure they weren't seriously hurt, just really pissed.

To this I'd like to add:

In the movie, Vinz states that “he will come in one of the pre-chosen forms” but that's obviously not what happened. Ray's Stay Puft Marshmallow thought popped into his head only after Gozer had to prompt the GBs…TWICE. (the first time, Ray told Gozer that “we don't understand”).

Obviously, Stay-Puft was NOT “one of the pre-chosen forms”, since the prefix “pre” means “before”, and Stay-Puft was definitely chosen AFTER Gozer appeared.

My theory on this was that Ivo Shandor and his cult failed to specify a “pre-chosen form” for Gozer, probably because they had only a rough approximation of the ancient Sumerian ritual to go on. This would also explain why Gozer did not appear for 60+ years after Shandor performed the ritual.

I assume if someone had 100% knowledge of the Sumerian ritual, and performed it in its entirety, the god would appear slightly faster than six decades later.

by Nix

14 years ago


Ivo Shandor
What are the Sebouillia?

Um…aren't they those little cubes you pop into a pot of boiling water to add flavor?

Oh, no, wait, that's bouillion. So sorry!:-(

by ivoshandor1

14 years ago


Nix;167022
Um…aren't they those little cubes you pop into a pot of boiling water to add flavor?

Oh, no, wait, that's bouillion. So sorry!:-(

“Add half a Sebouillia cube”…would certainly produce an interesting recipe!

by CarterKhoury

14 years ago


Thanks. Recently When i was playing Halo: Reach (if anyone has that, its the coolest video game ever by the way) I built a map on forge that was floating in the middle of the sky and At the center of it I built gozers temple-or atleast it looks somewhat like it-and it pretty big.