Yea, I don't see how that could possibly cause a flame war.

Jeez, man, why don't you tell us how you really feel?

Ok first of all, its pretty obvious that a post like this isn't goign to be looked upon fondly. You're entitled to your opinion, but at the same time, its clear during several instances in your rant that you are only interested in bashing the game and didn't even care about the plot points…

StayinPuft;151280
This game IS just a retread of the first movie. Nevermind the fact that the first 2 levels are STRAIGHT out of GB1, but alot of the dialogue is just quotes from the movies, the score is probably 95% Elmer Bernstien's, and the story revolves around Gozer and Shandor and etc.

Show me quotes. You say there's quotes from the movies. Prove it. (This is going to be fun, cuz there aren't quotes from the movies. References maybe, but you try to make it sound like most of the dialogue is direct quotes from the movies… FAIL).

StayinPuft;151280
Were they not creative enough to actually add a new chapter to GB canon since they WERE obviously given the chance to by Dan Aykroyd. Instead, all we got was something so similar to the first movie that it isn't worth including ANYTHING into canon.

The story is a new chapter. It evolves the events of Ghostbusters into something even larger than it was. Adding on to an existing storyline is the definition of a new chapter. That's what the video game did. There's a ton of interesting stuff for the canon. The Lost Island. The fact that Gozer can't change his form in this dimension. The new containment unit. Etc.

StayinPuft;151280
After that, you pretty much go and fight Satan in the ghostworld… For a true GB sequel, I would have expected more than a red lava monster with devil horns that breathes fire at you. How completely unoriginal and disappointing. After beating the Prince of Darkness, opps, I mean Shandor, I was treated to a 30 second CGI sequence that ended in the exact same way as the first movie did

The fact that you think the final boss was Satan (unless that was a terrible joke) shows how little you paid attention to the story, which explains why you think nothing should be added to the canon. The ending stuff bearing a similarity to the ending of the first movie isn't nearly as close as you like to make it out to be.

StayinPuft;151280
Now that would have been a GREAT idea for a game. Let the Rookie go off and have his own adventure ghostbusting in a new city with new characters and a new story. I might have considered that to be a true sequel, but not the game that was actually made. I really wish that they HAD just given us the ability to play through Gb1/Gb2 instead of this bastardized version…

So you complain about it being unoriginal, yet you wish they would've just made it a playable mashup of GB1 and GB2? And the Rookie opening a franchise is obviously a lot of potential for that to be the sequel type game to this.

StayinPuft;151280
Now that I beat the game, I put it back on my shelf probably never to be played again. The multiplayer is so terrible that I have no reason to play it again. More than a year after GTA4 released, I am still addicted to the multiplayer and try to play atleast once a day! Now there is an example of a game extremely well done.

This game was incredibly well done. You don't think so, and that's fine. But coming on here to bash the game… can't really see the point in that. Its like the guy who declared that RGB sucks now that he's an adult. Why bash and complain about this stuff to the people you know like it?

I don't agree with Doctor Venkman much, but shit he hit the nail on the head. You thought it was SATAN at the end? *falls on the floor laughing* What did you do, take piss and shit breaks in the cut scenes and in game dialogue? Must have to MISS the story. I can't really add much to Doctor Venkman's post, but seriously that Satan comment just showed you don't PAY ATTENTION to the story of a game, movie, books etc. Satan, oh man……..*whipes tears*

Well I think age may also play a factor in how his(either bill or peters) voice sounds. look at Al Pacino in the godfather kind of a cool relaxed (for the most part) person with an even tone now it sounds like he needs another cigarette and a shot of vodka

As for Peter's lines ya some were duds same in the movies some were duds to me like in GB2 where he says “I love you, when you rough house” didn't really fit in that sceen for me could have done without it but that didnt kill the movie for me.

For the Shandor part I thought it was pretty cool unique in fact as ya he did look like the devil but maybe Dan had said something to the art team to make him look like the devil as a nod to hellbent.

And yes a lot was recycled from the first 2 movies but it threw me in those movies which is more then I can say for those crappy NES games and reminded me of why I love the movies in the first place.

We also got to learn more about the ghostbusters and “villans” as far as what the hell is a Slor and how evil Ivo Shandor really was I do wish how ever that in the begining of the game after the Ecto goes into the garage they would show a cut sceen of the origins of Ivo Shandor I mean we all know but it would be cool to see him as a regular guy that goes batshit crazy

sandmanfvr;151285
I don't agree with Doctor Venkman much, but shit he hit the nail on the head. You thought it was SATAN at the end? *falls on the floor laughing* What did you do, take piss and shit breaks in the cut scenes and in game dialogue? Must have to MISS the story. I can't really add much to Doctor Venkman's post, but seriously that Satan comment just showed you don't PAY ATTENTION to the story of a game, movie, books etc. Satan, oh man……..*whipes tears*

I think he was trying to draw a satirical comparison between one of many interpretations of Lucifer and the “Destructor Form” of Shandor. On that one, I will have to agree. I kind of wish he looked more like his Minimate.

As far as direct quotes from the movies, there were a few…but but not enough for it to be said that alot of the dialogue is just quotes from the movies…most of those quotes were used in a reference fashion.

“You know how you say print is dead”
“That wasn't such a chore now”
“He's been slimed…Again!”

Those are the only 3 refference quotes I can come up with off the top of my head.

Personally I love the “We eat Gods for breakfast!” quote at the end, laughed my hole out on that one.

As for your arguments about unoriginality StayinPuft, I don't remeber book golems in the library, Sargassi (Angry Fisherman) in the sedgewick, and I certainly don't remeber actually seeing the ghost world.

Jay_Tigran;151301
“You know how you say print is dead”
“That wasn't such a chore now”
“He's been slimed…Again!”

Those are the only 3 refference quotes I can come up with off the top of my head.

Personally I love the “We eat Gods for breakfast!” quote at the end, laughed my hole out on that one.

As for your arguments about unoriginality StayinPuft, I don't remeber book golems in the library, Sargassi (Angry Fisherman) in the sedgewick, and I certainly don't remeber actually seeing the ghost world.

Yea, because it's an open world video game. GB1 was a linear movie. GB The Video Game, you sit there and play. GB1 you sit there and watch. I'm not saying there isn't some original things in here because obviously there are… How could you make an 8 hour video game without something new?

Some of you are taking me far too literal. I wasn't saying that the final boss IS Satan, I am saying that it looks like the common Western conception of what the devil looks like… I know it was the “architect”, but it looked exactly like a run of the mill Satan. Any 1st year art school student could draw you one.

To build on to that being taken too literal premise, obviously there is new dialogue to explain the “new” story in this game. Alot of the little throwaway lines that are inserted throughout the game are GB1 quotes. I'm not going to play the game all over again just so I can go through and count the examples. I know what I heard and there are several examples.

I love how people are super sensitive to any criticism of the game here. I've been playing video games for 20 some odd years and just a gamer (not a GB fan) I can say that GBTVG does not rank in my “best of” list. The only reason that I like the game as much as I do is because I'm a huge Ghostbusters fan. I like all the little easter egg things in the firehouse and the artifacts that you collect and yadda yadda. As a matter of fact, I think you spend entirely too little time in the firehouse. Once you have seen all the easter eggs, there is nothing more to do there.

But I'm getting way too far off track now… As I said before, my biggest criticism of the game is that it's billed as GB3 and yet it's merely GB 1.5. The story is not original enough for it to EVER be considered as a true sequel in my books. Even the story they did isn't really done that well. Why aren't all the cutscenes CGI? Why are there so few cutscenes? Why are the cutscenes so short? I know that you are supposed to “play the plot” but they could have done ALOT better job making it feel like a movie by adding more/better cut scenes. I wasn't joking in my previous post when I said that the final cutscene is about 30 seconds long…

Maybe I played a different game from the rest of you guys too… You all seem to have gotten a lot more out of it than I did.

StayinPuft;151308
The only reason that I like the game as much as I do is because I'm a huge Ghostbusters fan.

Interesting. Before you seemed to be saying that you hated the game, considering you were saying you'd never play it again. You definitely didn't give off a vibe as to “liking it as much as you do because you're a Ghostbusters fan” before.

StayinPuft;151308
I wasn't joking in my previous post when I said that the final cutscene is about 30 seconds long…

Well you don't have to replay the game to rewatch that. Go to the extras section and rewatch it and actually time it this time. I bet you good money its longer than 30 seconds.

Its not that people are over-sensitive to criticsm of the game. We all like it. Obviously. There's no real use coming here and complaining about the plot sucking when it didn't, the cutscenes being too short when they're not, and the lines being “exact quotes from GB1” when they're not. Some of those things are opinions, yes, but what's the point in complaining about it? You even said you knew it would start a flame war, so if you knew that people were going to severely disagree with you and that you would have nothing to back it up, why even post it?

StayinPuft;151308
I wasn't joking in my previous post when I said that the final cutscene is about 30 seconds long…

final cut scene is 1:30 seconds long.

skankerzero;151311
final cut scene is 1:30 seconds long.

I dunno why Skanker, but I laughed when I read that.