I was reading the best buy reviews and they say its horrible, that they didn't even bother cleaning to picture or did anything new to the film…just the same old stuff stuck on a blueray disk

discuss.

jedimiller;164996
I was reading the best buy reviews and they say its horrible, that they didn't even bother cleaning to picture or did anything new to the film…just the same old stuff stuck on a blueray disk

discuss.

It all depends on if you like “grain” in your picture as there is quite a lot in the film, some people love it while others hate it. There are some parts when the picture is truely amazing looking. I have found that if you watch the film on a large LCD or Plasma screen then you will see the “Grain” effect quite a bit, however I was shocked to discover that if you watch it on a 1080p HD projector then the “grain” is hardly visable and that is on a 100" image.
To be honest the film on Blu-Ray is very cheap now and can sometimes be picked up for £5 new, so go for it.

Is is good, but I only paid 15 bucks for it on amazon but still disappointed. NO sense in that film grain. I hope a two pack is released on blu ray and the film grain is resolved. The detail there is there, but shit that grain is bad in some areas.

thanks guys..how unfortunate that they didn't take the time to fix the grain for the blue ray..thats just lazy..So, it is true..the blue ray is NOT in High definition. thats sad.

Grain is part of a movie. Its always been there, it always should be.

I was more dissappointed in the special features. The 2000 dvd release is still the best in reguards to features.

Doctor Venkman;165007
Grain is part of a movie. Its always been there, it always should be.

No so cut and dry. First, film grain is not “always there” as masters kept at film studios and some in underground salt mines (yes salt to keep moisture out) are in pristine condition and don't have much if any grain. Film grain and the “hairs” we see on films in theaters is the lower quality copies they have and if the theaters didn't take care of the reels, well you saw it on screen. Second film grain in this case (GB Blu Ray)is caused by over SHARPENING the film. See my attached photos. I took that from the DVD with VLC (Had to re size for uploads. Can the forums be changed to allow bigger images at least?). The egon1 is a sized down rip from the DVD, then egon2 has been ran through a sharpening procedure to over sharpen it. Video does the same thing, I know I have done it. I am not saying grain isn't on the film, but some film is almost grain free if not grain free, it is way it is digitized and restored. Lazy or cheap software/software methods can add TONS of film artifacts and make video look like shit. Seeing how Indiana Jones was cleaned up for DVD, I know GB was done poorly. Sony didn't give a shit, got it in a PC/MAC and sharpened the hell out of it. I have Terminator on Blu Ray, the detail is fantastic and no grain. It can be done, Sony didn't try enough.

I was excited about the release of the blu-ray, and when I got it, I was happy that parts of the movie looked much better, but saddened that some parts actually looked worse.

I don't care so much for the lines showing with regards to the matte backgrounds or the optical effects showing their age, but the amount of ‘noise’ in the picture definitely isn't what I would put down to film grain. It looks like digital noise caused by sharpening as sandmanfvr says, and alterations/tweaks with the brightness and contrast, as a result of the remastering.

sandmanfvr;165018
No so cut and dry. First, film grain is not “always there” as masters kept at film studios and some in underground salt mines (yes salt to keep moisture out) are in pristine condition and don't have much if any grain. Film grain and the “hairs” we see on films in theaters is the lower quality copies they have and if the theaters didn't take care of the reels, well you saw it on screen. Second film grain in this case (GB Blu Ray)is caused by over SHARPENING the film. See my attached photos. I took that from the DVD with VLC (Had to re size for uploads. Can the forums be changed to allow bigger images at least?). The egon1 is a sized down rip from the DVD, then egon2 has been ran through a sharpening procedure to over sharpen it. Video does the same thing, I know I have done it. I am not saying grain isn't on the film, but some film is almost grain free if not grain free, it is way it is digitized and restored. Lazy or cheap software/software methods can add TONS of film artifacts and make video look like shit. Seeing how Indiana Jones was cleaned up for DVD, I know GB was done poorly. Sony didn't give a shit, got it in a PC/MAC and sharpened the hell out of it. I have Terminator on Blu Ray, the detail is fantastic and no grain. It can be done, Sony didn't try enough.

Over sharpening is not grain. You know that's not what I was talking about. I was referring to the fact that a regular amount of grain makes a film look gritty, and real to me. And Ghostbusters doesn't look remotely like what you posted. I'm sure you posted it that way to try to make a point, but it didn't work very well.

Yeah I wouldn't call it grain either. But it looks like a byproduct of digital tweaks.

To me, it actually looks like a brightness/contrast thing. Whenever I have edited videos myself and played around with the brightness/contrast, at certain levels, it causes white dots, which is exactly what is seen on the blu-ray.

Makes me wonder if a simple tweak on a person's TV could limit/improve some of it. Hmm.