in th final page of legion #3 there is a ghost that looks just like slimer (i guess Draverhaven has the power to make ghosts or something) but i dont understand, i thought slimer was created in the basement of the sedgwick hotel, ?

Slimer wasn't created in the basement of the hotel. He haunts the twelth floor - it makes no sense as he'd haunt the basement if he originated from there. I think it's clear to say Slimer was a fat guy who died (of a heart attack no less) whilst staying at the hotel on the twelth floor.

It's obvious Slimer used to be alive because he loves food so much. How else would he know about food and why would he love something he's never done before and will never (or no longer) be able to do? It passes right through him, so he can't actually be eating it, but it's what he did in life - and ghost seem to carry that stuff on (like the librarian still reading the book, the taxi driver still driving a taxi, the jogger still jogging etc).

actually supposdly slimer was created by rituals in the basement of the hotel,

Yeah that's according to some book or something - but it makes no sense.

On the DVD they said Slimer is suppoed to be the ghost of John Belushi. He's a fat guy who'se died and Slimer is a tribute to that. The basement thing raises more questions than it answers. And why the hell would people do these rituals in a hotel? Do they book into a room every day, sneak down to the basement (without security even noticing or checking what the noise it), conduct the rituals, then check out with their luggage? And rituals to summon a ghost that does nothing but eat food on one of the floors? Why would anyone even bother to do that? He's a dead guy - it's simple.

The ghost of John Belushi thing was somewhat of a joke among the cast members, as he was originally supposed to play Peter Venkman. John Belushi was Dan Aykroyd's best friend. That was a joke - it's simple.

Slimer's origin isn't really known. In my opinion, he was never alive. Ghosts can be manifestations, they don't HAVE to come from an actual person. Slimer stays in the hotel because that's where he can get food easily. After the CU blows up in GB1 he doesn't immediately return the hotel, does he? No, in GB2 we see him in many other environments.

As for the original question, I don't see how you could think that ISN'T Slimer in Legion #3. There's no question about it. Draverhaven isn't creating ghosts, he's controlling them.

Slimer stays in the hotel because that's where he can get food easily.

Again, why would he want to eat if he never did it in life? If you look at him in the movie, everything he eats and drinks passes straight through him and goes onto the floor. He's not actually eating it at all.

As the food is doing nothing to him, and it just falls to the floor, it's obvious that it's something he used to like to do in life and tries to carry it on. If he was never alive, how does he know he likes food so much? He can't eat it now, so it's not something he's learnt as a ghost.

Fine man, that's what “obvious” to you. That doesn't make it fact though. We don't know, ghosts may have tastebuds. No one ever said they can't. Maybe he's trying to mimick humans by eating. There's MANY possibilities. Just because he eats, doesn't mean he's trying to continue something from his past life. You don't see him trying to pick up women or anything do you? That would be something he did in a past life.

Doctor Venkman
You don't see him trying to pick up women or anything do you? That would be something he did in a past life.

With the amount he eats, I doubt it very much. :p

*That's just the thing…*

NO ONE knows where he came from, partly because he never had a proper “backstory”…Not even in RGB, to which he rose from “the green guy who slimed Peter” (Known then only to us “ghostheads” and the crew of the film as “Onionhead”), to a *actual character* in his own right, and one of the “guys”…

*But then again we have his popularity to blame for the latter “kiddie-friendly” seasons of RGB too :-( …

But back to the issue at hand, all we have is our own speculation, “GBI's” take on the matter, and the “in-jokes” from the set of the film itself…

*And until Mr. Reitman and/or Dan pipes up with an *actual* answer (I don't think either of them gave it much thought aside from the “Belushi” joke), we may never truley know (;_ …

*Holds out hope for the “20th” Dvd*

Cheers.

Let's touch on some topics really quickly here:

Ghosts are not simple manifestations of something that wasn't in existence before. In 32 years of paranormal research, I've never once read such a theory as that, and there isn't anything that backs that up at all, either.

Ghosts/apparitions are the disembodied spirits of once living creatures. Check any of your textbooks on parapsychology and that's basically your definition. There has never been any documented case where a ghost appeared that was of something that was never alive to begin with.

Except in Hollywood.

Anyways, go to http://www.aspr.com/ , or go directly to the right textbook here: http://www.aspr.com/general.htm#irwin

If you have reference to support that ghosts don't have to be of once living people that denies the years over years of official studies by parapsychologists, please link. I'm willing to read that information as well.

Next, the “Joke” was that they DID base The Onionhead Ghost on John Belushi, who, as they say, lived large and basically was the living definition of “over-kill” by the mass consumption of food, drink, and drugs. You all know that John Belushi was gluttonous, and his friends today still say he was. It was just who he was.

So, who is this in the book?

We all know and love Slimer, but that's the name given to him in the Real ghostbustes cartoon, and later in the RGB comic books. Then, in GBII he was named Slimer. But, this comic series takes place after the first film and doesn't consider the existence of GBII or any of the animated series, and so I call this green ghost “The Onionhead.” And I love it. I love the way they did the art on him in this book.

But, you also ask how he ends up in the book? Remember at the end of the movie just before we fade to dark and credits he's free and flying through the streets of New York? That's how he's ended up in the book.

I don't have the original novel written about the first film, so I'm not sure what insight they give in that book about The Onionhead as he was known back then. But, according to the book Making Ghostbusters, and my book is loaned out so I can't be 100% for sure, but I think the John belushi reference is made there, also.