Oooookaaay, uh Riddle, what are you and stoofuss talking about?

Bo Holbrook
Actually a long long time ago Sebastien asked me to find all the blueprint type stuff that I could find that was OFFICIAL or just really really good looking. So I sent him the movie used Blue prints for the Ecto-1, Some equipment stuff, and other things. But I did send him the GB RPG Firehouse Blueprints. He seemed to be pleased with them and thanked me for sending them. Whether he used them or not is up for debate but it seems to me that those are the ones he used.

Kingy, The problem with your blueprints are that you're trying to make them for the ACTUAL firehouse. Not the firehouse that was seen in the movie. For the firehouse that was seen in the first movie the GB RPG Blueprints are as accurate as it gets. While your blueprints may be accurate in the real world they aren't movie-wise.

for the equipment, sebastien told me a while ago that he had basically unlimited access to anything in sony's archives for research….

True, Bo, very true. It all bottles down to what they want to use, the Firehouse layout as presented in the first film (With Ray swapping poles as he slid down to the garage) or the actual building's layout. Oh well, we'll hopefully see how they present it soon.

Ray doesn't swap poles, It's all about the camera angle man. Jen and I had a LENGTHY discussion about this. It just looks like he's they used 2 different poles. Because when they're upstairs the camera is face toward the front of the building. When they're downstairs it's facing toward the wall and back office area. I can have Jen explain it better as she explained it to me.

Actually, I would be intested in hearing her opinion

Well, I'll try. The “magic bullet..er… pole” theory is not that hard to figure out.

Bo is correct in saying that the camera is facing the front of the building when they are at the dinner table, and then facing the back of the building when they get into the garage area.

However, if you watch that scene (when they begin to filter into the garage) at a slower speed, you can see a slightly shiney, slightly rusted pole. Its just not in focus in the shot and there are other things piled around it.

You'll also notice that you can clearly see the pole in question while they are upstairs.


At least, I think that's how it goes…. This conversation was a long time ago, so I may be a bit rusty, and I don't have the DVD with me to check it.

I suppose when we take into the film-verse account, that does indeed work.

Again, it raises the point of whether it'll be the building's portrayal in the film or in reality…but…to be honest, I'd hope it'd be the film's portrayal.

its really hard to tell what version of the firehouse there going to use…considering the outside goes along with the film…but the basement goes along with RGB and EGB (and the containment unit)…i have to say…that was unexpected….


am i the only one that thinks Slimer looks kick ass :-)

Fanku Kaibutsu

SoulWrangler

First off, there's the argument that, according to the version of the script(which claimed to be the final shooting script) i read, the first containment unit was half of the firehouse basement with a laser grid around it, and the wall with the input was added. the RGB containment unit contained a synthetic micro demension. the last time I checked, in terms of storage space, Micro-dimensions>half a firehouse basement. [Plus, lookit all that detail, man! how could they make the old, wall-mounted ECU look that cool?

This is six months after Gozer, and their tech isn't anywere near creating micro dimensions. I really doubt that Sebastien and Co (Sundays on Fox) are wanting to use the micro dimensions theory because that goes against the idea of the ghost prison that Aykroyd wanted. If anything a better way of explaining this massive boiler room looking structure is that the original ECU was a day spa prison, and the new version is a maximum security prison. Space was never an issue, if a large ghost could be dematerialized into a 1x2' box for temporary containment, who's to say that they can't just continually shove ghost after ghost into the system; squeezing them all together. Personally, I would've rather have seen an all new and unique design for this, but I understand their desire to please hardcore RGB fans.

Valid points(except 1), though until someone from 88mph explains how the new ECU works, there's no telling which, if either of us is right or wrong. I just figured, if they're using the RGB exterior design, they'd probably use the whole concept. However, I do have to disagree that space wasn't an issue. If space wasn't an issue, Ray probably wouldn't have said “it's getting crowded in there”. Maybe they figured out a way to get around the space issue that isn't a micro-dimension, maybe space still is an issue, we just don't know. It'd be nice if we did know, though(blatant hint to any 88mph folks reading)

edit: I hate working with multiple quote tags.

Firstly, too bad.

Secondly, they're not going to use the microverse theory. Its really just too out there in the Ghostbusters timeframe at the moment, and even if they did switch over to the microverse system from RGB (god forbid) we're still talking a few years down the road in their timeline and like 15 in ours. The look of the ECU is to please the RGB fans. After studying that drawing a bit it looks as if that entire kettle pot is the input chamber, as a large output valve is at the back of the machine into the wall. As for why the Ghostbusters need a gigantic input chamber is beyond me, seeing as how the coke machine sized one did just fine. Maybe the ghosts have to go through processing now?

… and Rays line wasn't so much a comment on needing a bigger ECU as it was at the amount of ghosts they had caught in a short period of time, setting up the line for the PKE readings and twinkies.

It should be noted that I'm not trying to bring down the art or any of the decisions by the staff at 88, its a great piece of art and I know that whatever happens I'll still be picking up this book.

In reality, it's all a fantastic sci-fi story, and regardless how big or small the ECU is we will always accept that it could hold as many ghosts as they tell us it can because it IS sci-fi fantasy!