OptimusFord;164247
http://cgi.ebay.com/GHOSTBUSTERS-Firehouse-NIB-/220655101084?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0

130.50 with less than an hour to go. starting bid and what an auction goes for are two very different things. I can list some of the things that I have on ebay for whatever I want it does not mean they are worth it. Like I said before you can get a NIB Ghostbusters firehouse for around 100 on Ebay.

A winning bid of $130.50 is NOT around $100. You realize $30+ on a hundred in adding 33% more than what your target price is?

Add to that the $35 to ship. So what? It's really $165.50? That's not “around” $100, but if you want to give me $165, I'll gladly trade it to you for a fesh $100 bill

Add to that it's from a 11 feedback seller. Lower refs can play a big factor in overall price.

EDIT: You're right, however, about the hole what it's worth/what it goes off at.

Walter_Peck;164263
A winning bid of $130.50 is NOT around $100. You realize $30+ on a hundred in adding 33% more than what your target price is?

Add to that the $35 to ship. So what? It's really $165.50? That's not “around” $100, but if you want to give me $165, I'll gladly trade it to you for a fesh $100 bill

Add to that it's from a 11 feedback seller. Lower refs can play a big factor in overall price.

EDIT: You're right, however, about the hole what it's worth/what it goes off at.

It did NOT sell for $165.50. People don't figure shipping costs into their purchase price. It sold for $130.50. You don't need to attack the guy, he's right. It sold for $130.50, which is much closer to $100 than it is to the $300 you claimed would be much more fair. He didn't say $130.50 is $100 either so there's no need to act like he did by saying you'd trade him $100 for $165.50.

The attitude wasn't necessary. The firehouse sold for much less than you implied they go for regularly.

Just for the conversation: I do take shipping into consideration when purchasing off Ebay. A lot of sellers have begun claiming outrageous amounts for shipping. Therefore, when I'm watching several identical items, I have a total amount in mind which includes the shipping - meaning I would pay less for the product, to the guy who's obviously making money on the shipping. Just my 2 cents though.

GhstbstrLMLIII;164267
Just for the conversation: I do take shipping into consideration when purchasing off Ebay. A lot of sellers have begun claiming outrageous amounts for shipping. Therefore, when I'm watching several identical items, I have a total amount in mind which includes the shipping - meaning I would pay less for the product, to the guy who's obviously making money on the shipping. Just my 2 cents though.

I'm not saying people don't take it into consideration, since obviously it is something that you pay, but to say it sold for $165.50 isn't true. It sold for $130.50. The Mattel figures don't sell for $29 each, they sell for $20 + $9 shipping.

And I wouldn't worry, people are going to start getting caught on outrageous shipping on eBay, and eBay will fix it. Its the sellers trying to get underneath the eBay fees, and it will be caught.

Doctor Venkman;164264
It did NOT sell for $165.50. People don't figure shipping costs into their purchase price. It sold for $130.50. You don't need to attack the guy, he's right. It sold for $130.50, which is much closer to $100 than it is to the $300 you claimed would be much more fair. He didn't say $130.50 is $100 either so there's no need to act like he did by saying you'd trade him $100 for $165.50.

The attitude wasn't necessary. The firehouse sold for much less than you implied they go for regularly.

Were did I attack this man? Hello ….winky face.

I'm not attacking him at all, and I don't see how I was coming off as so. $135 is still more than $100. It's a big markup, hopefully you think 33% is a big. It is btw.

It also fell short becasue of 11 ref count by the member. Higher established members pull down more money off Ebay…known fact. If a guy with 2k + refs sells it I bet you it goes for around of over $200…possibly more.

Yet, I see no where in my post that I attacked this man. So why would you even bring that up? unless you are trying to counter-attack me?

Why even be the 3rd man in for that matter?

I also agreed with him that Ebay can work in mysterious ways….what something is worth and what it's final ending price falls at is two entirely different things.

The man who started this asked for a price….I told him what it was worth. He told him what you might end with on Ebay, Otehrs are trying to get $300 for it…..they might, they might not. Why wouldn't you at least TRY to get maximum value at first…if it doesn't sell then you can work your way down from there.

One auction going off at $135.50 does NOT make that item worth exactly that. Ebay is almost like a false valuing system. If I went and sold my *ok super geek alert here* Alpha Black Lotus(it's a Magic the Gathering Card if anyone is wondering) on Ebay and I only pulled $1,100 it does NOT make all Alpha Black Lotus' worth said price. Also in turn if I sell it and get $2,500 it does not make all of the worth that either.

This is why I agreed with the Him about item worth/ item selling price.

Walter_Peck;164270
I'm not attacking him at all, and I don't see how I was coming off as so. $135 is still more than $100. It's a big markup, hopefully you think 33% is a big. It is btw.

The sarcastic tone like that… “It is btw” is what comes off as attacking. By your logic $1.33 is A LOT more than $1, because that's a 33% markup and “thats big btw.”

Walter_Peck;164270
It also fell short becasue of 11 ref count by the member. Higher established members pull down more money off Ebay…known fact. If a guy with 2k + refs sells it I bet you it goes for around of over $200…possibly more.

Says you. The only fact here is that the firehouse sold for much less than you claimed they regularly sell for. And someone with 1500 feedback listed their firehouse for $400, which is closer to the $300 you said these regularly sell for, and that didn't sell.

Walter_Peck;164270
Yet, I see no where in my post that I attacked this man. So why would you even bring that up? unless you are trying to counter-attack me?

Why even be the 3rd man in for that matter?

Its a message board. This is not a private topic, so I was offering my opinion on the matter. And FYI, I can't “counter attack you” as you claimed, unless you attacked originally.

Walter_Peck;164270
I also agreed with him that Ebay can work in mysterious ways….what something is worth and what it's final ending price falls at is two entirely different things.

But you're also claiming that people with higher feedback always get more money for something… That's not the case. eBay is a complex situation, where people have to be looking for the right thing, trust the seller, and be bidding against more/fewer opponents for something. Claims like that are simply that, claims. You have no proof to back up any of these statements.

Walter_Peck;164270
The man who started this asked for a price….I told him what it was worth. He told him what you might end with on Ebay, Otehrs are trying to get $300 for it…..they might, they might not. Why wouldn't you at least TRY to get maximum value at first…if it doesn't sell then you can work your way down from there.

You also insulted and made fun of someone who offered $100 for it.

Walter_Peck;164270
One auction going off at $135.50 does NOT make that item worth exactly that.

Just like one auction going off at $300 doesn't make it worth that.

Walter_Peck;164270
Ebay is almost like a false valuing system. If I went and sold my *ok super geek alert here* Alpha Black Lotus(it's a Magic the Gathering Card if anyone is wondering) on Ebay and I only pulled $1,100 it does NOT make all Alpha Black Lotus' worth said price. Also in turn if I sell it and get $2,500 it does not make all of the worth that either.

This is why I agreed with the Him about item worth/ item selling price.

And yet you're the one who continues to use eBay as his proof for what the firehouse is worth…

Doctor Venkman;164274
The sarcastic tone like that… “It is btw” is what comes off as attacking. By your logic $1.33 is A LOT more than $1, because that's a 33% markup and “thats big btw.”



Says you. The only fact here is that the firehouse sold for much less than you claimed they regularly sell for. And someone with 1500 feedback listed their firehouse for $400, which is closer to the $300 you said these regularly sell for, and that didn't sell.



Its a message board. This is not a private topic, so I was offering my opinion on the matter. And FYI, I can't “counter attack you” as you claimed, unless you attacked originally.



But you're also claiming that people with higher feedback always get more money for something… That's not the case. eBay is a complex situation, where people have to be looking for the right thing, trust the seller, and be bidding against more/fewer opponents for something. Claims like that are simply that, claims. You have no proof to back up any of these statements.



You also insulted and made fun of someone who offered $100 for it.



Just like one auction going off at $300 doesn't make it worth that.



And yet you're the one who continues to use eBay as his proof for what the firehouse is worth…

Wow, you are just sounding more and more rediculis by the min.

1. A 33% increase is a BIG increase. No matter what the starting number is, if you add/tax me 33% on it that's a lot. In a $1 situation…well, yes $.33 cents is not that big a deal…but it's not the point of how low the original value is. Bottom line is 33% increase is 33% increase.

2.Where or when did I ever “claim” the firehouse was worth $300? Please show me. I'd love to know. I said that there was one on Ebay for $300….I didn't say that it WAS worth $300.

3.I was offering my opinion too, and if the man thinks I am attacking him I'm pretty sure he can handle himself. I don't think a 3rd party needs to be involved especially as something as simple as this.

4. Why do you think people go to more reputable sellers and most of the times over pay in a bidding war for what they want? Because they are paying a “tax” shall we say for comfort. Knowing or at least they think that person wont screw them, or fix any problems that might occur. I don't have any true hard evidence, you're right. Yet you can look around Ebay and probably come to the same conclusion as I did there. If you think that anyone can sell anything for the same price I'm going to tell you that I think you are wrong. I know supply/demand can make anything on Ebay go awkwardly as far as bids are concerned, but every day I could site you examples of higer reputable sellers getting more value out of their items than those with lower rep. I can show you a lot of examples in terms of Magic Sales.

5.You're right…probably did. Sorry if I insulted you, the person I made the comment to…but again if he was genuinely upset I'm certain they can take care of themselves. We don't need internet moms and dads….again for somethnig as simple as this. You have never insulted someone on a message board? Find it hard to believe. Yet he did give a low ball offer and wondered why the guy didn't reply. Sorry if I was basically telling him what said seller probably thought….oh hey, this kid is gonna low ball me, well I'll ignore him. I know an offer is an offer but a bad offer is a bad offer to ya know?


6.Again…..were did I use Ebay as my “proof” of what the Firehouse is worth? Please don't put words in my mouth or accuse me of something I did not say.

Walter_Peck;164276
Wow, you are just sounding more and more rediculis by the min.

5.You're right…probably did. Sorry if I insulted you, the person I made the comment to…but again if he was genuinely upset I'm certain they can take care of themselves. We don't need internet moms and dads….again for somethnig as simple as this. You have never insulted someone on a message board? Find it hard to believe. Yet he did give a low ball offer and wondered why the guy didn't reply. Sorry if I was basically telling him what said seller probably thought….oh hey, this kid is gonna low ball me, well I'll ignore him. I know an offer is an offer but a bad offer is a bad offer to ya know?


6.Again…..were did I use Ebay as my “proof” of what the Firehouse is worth? Please don't put words in my mouth or accuse me of something I did not say.

I'm not going to argue the semantics with you. You implied that's what it was worth by posting that, and you know you did. If you want to suddenly act like you didn't because you got called out, that's not my problem. We've all seen you dance around your words before as if we're all idiots and you're some misunderstood genius.

Oh, and yes, I've absolutely insulted people on message boards before, even on this one right here. The fact of the matter is I admit that and will apologize if I've unintentionally done so, I won't act like I did nothing wrong.

Although I find it interesting that you think there's nothing wrong with offering your opinion, or if you're allowed to basically tell someone what you think the seller (who has ignored everyone since posting here, not just the one guy) was thinking, as if its fact, yet if I tell you what I think the people you're insulting are thinking about you I'm “rediculis” which is spelled “ridiculous” by the way.

Let's leave it at that shall we? No need to continue bickering when the only people posting here aren't even the original seller, who seems to have left the board and isn't actually interested in selling this item.

Doctor Venkman;164278
I'm not going to argue the semantics with you. You implied that's what it was worth by posting that, and you know you did. If you want to suddenly act like you didn't because you got called out, that's not my problem. We've all seen you dance around your words before as if we're all idiots and you're some misunderstood genius.

Oh, and yes, I've absolutely insulted people on message boards before, even on this one right here. The fact of the matter is I admit that and will apologize if I've unintentionally done so, I won't act like I did nothing wrong.

Although I find it interesting that you think there's nothing wrong with offering your opinion, or if you're allowed to basically tell someone what you think the seller (who has ignored everyone since posting here, not just the one guy) was thinking, as if its fact, yet if I tell you what I think the people you're insulting are thinking about you I'm “rediculis” which is spelled “ridiculous” by the way.

Let's leave it at that shall we? No need to continue bickering when the only people posting here aren't even the original seller, who seems to have left the board and isn't actually interested in selling this item.

Well if I danced around all of my > 70 posts I don't know what to tell you. I didn't think I made that much noise around here to warrant such unwanted fame :p Yes…Rediculous….I am not the best at typing, even tho I type very fast it's usually with a lot of spelling mistakes….I and O are right next to eact other on a keyboard. Sometimes the word “to” will look like “ot” and “ing” endings will come out “nig”. Pointing out I'm a bad typer does nothing for me, I KNOW I suck at typing.

I'm sorry to offend you. I really did not mean to say that the firehouse was worth $300….I went to Ebay, looked for one, and voila there was one at SB $300….and to be honest it's not the first one I've seen with that asking price….so do you want me to lie to the guy? I'm sorry you came to such a conclusion about me…I can assure you I am not a misunderstood genius.

As I said in another thread…it's water under the bridge.