Adam Bestler;170879
What I wonder is this: would less people suffer and die if he was alive, or if he was dead?

The world will never know.

I, however, believe that many more would have suffered if he was alive.

It's just easier to say this: violence begets more violence.

Adam Bestler;170882
It's just easier to say this: violence begets more violence.

You can say that if you wish.

It is not always entirely true.

Like I said, I firmly believe more people would have died if he was still alive. You disagree. That's fine. There's no way to prove that either one of us would ever be right. Its just an opinion.

Doctor Venkman;170877
Astounding… really? Santa Claus? A fictional character.

I’ll revise that then:
This is like claiming to have killed someone, and to have disposed of his body at sea, but backing up the claims with his DNA.

Doctor Venkman;170877
Also, from what I've read, there was a gun fight prior to his death. You do not know that he was unarmed, or that he would've allowed himself to be captured.

They said on the news that he was armed, and then later said that he was unarmed. They also said the gun fight was with some of Osama’s guards, not with Osama himself. Then a woman who resisted the soldiers was stopped, but not killed, by being shot in the leg. Afterwards, they shot and killed Osama because he also resisted.

Yahoo homepage
Bin Laden photos will not be released

Guess we’re going to be stuck with only the DNA evidence.

BigMac;170886
I’ll revise that then:
This is like claiming to have killed someone, and to have disposed of his body at sea, but backing up the claims with his DNA.

Its not like that, it is that. And if having his DNA to back it up isn't enough for you, then stick to your possibility that he's alive, and that the U.S. made this up.

Cuz that would do so much good for us right? Make it up, and just “say we have his DNA” so that when he shows up alive, our government is shown to be a complete and total joke, run by fools who just make shit up to get on TV.

My God, some people need to give their head's a shake and get rid of these stupid conspiracy theories, lol.

BigMac;170886
They said on the news that he was armed, and then later said that he was unarmed. They also said the gun fight was with some of Osama’s guards, not with Osama himself. Then a woman who resisted the soldiers was stopped, but not killed, by being shot in the leg. Afterwards, they shot and killed Osama because he also resisted.

Whoever was involved in the gunfight (can't think of his name) also raised the possibility that Osama might have been wearing a suicide vest, and that the team just couldn't take that chance.

Isn't killing Osama going to cause more trouble like another attack. They are probably coming up with revenge as we speak.

zachary1998;170889
Isn't killing Osama going to cause more trouble like another attack. They are probably coming up with revenge as we speak.

So you think they should just let Osama stay alive and plot those attacks himself?

The man was a mass murdering psychopath.

He would have killed more people if he stayed alive.

I'm sure that there's the possibility for revenge, but you don't allow someone who plans to kill other people to stay alive for fear of the revenge if he's dead.

BigMac;170886
They said on the news that he was armed, and then later said that he was unarmed. They also said the gun fight was with some of Osama’s guards, not with Osama himself. Then a woman who resisted the soldiers was stopped, but not killed, by being shot in the leg. Afterwards, they shot and killed Osama because he also resisted.

As with every major event, the early reports aren't always as accurate as the ones that come later once the dust has settled well enough to get a clear idea of what went on.

Cast your mind back to Linda Norgrove, the Scottish aid worker who died after she'd been kidnapped by the Taliban, at first it was believed that she'd been killed by the Taliban… then sadly it transpired it was an American grenade.


Beyond that, DNA is a recognised item of proof. It's not something that can be faked like a lie detector. And, as Dan said, the US wouldn't make up the claim that they'd killed him for him to then release a video saying “So, yeah… not dead.”

Osama Bin Laden is DEAD. Stop looking for a conspiracy.

If you look around, you’ll notice that the official story is a joke, and it’s quickly falling apart. People are doing their own thinking, and realizing just how unrealistic the story is. Some comments from people on other sites:

OBL was supposedly in a compound down the street from a police station and major Pakistani military base. Four choppers are sent in and a vicious firefight breaks out for nearly an hour. Not one cop or Pakistani soldier is sent to the compound to investigate.

Obama claims that OBL had to be given a proper burial in order to not offend Muslims. So they dump him out at sea. Muslim scholars speak out and say that is not a proper Muslim burial. Obama then changes the story and says that they didn't want to bury OBL and give a shrine to the terrorists. Why not bury him in an unmarked grave in the desert if they wanted a proper Muslim burial?

In 1998 OBL had kidney failure and requires weekly dialysis at the hospital. Then he survives years living in a cave before moving to a compound in a busy surburb of 140,000 people in Pakistan. Nobody notices the new 6'4 Arab and his entourage in town. Even though there is a $25 million bounty on him when he goes to the hospital for his weekly dialysis and none of the doctors, nurses or other patients are curious..

It's 11PM on Sunday night and a spontaneous crowd of “college students” gathers outside the white house with extra large brand new American flags to celebrate. I guess college students from Georgetown and GW all keep huge American flags in their dorm rooms for such occasions.

Obama states that he chose a risky special ops mission instead of dropping a bomb on the compound because they wanted to prove to the world that they got OBL. They then immediately dump the evidence in the ocean and refuse to release the photos.

Another person’s sarcastic comment, similar to my Santa Claus example:

I shot Bigfoot yesterday. I ate him and dumped the remains in the lake before I could prove it. Just take my word for it. Seriously.

Some other remarks:

They shot him in the face, flew him 750+ miles to the sea and dumped his body in the ocean all in 12 hours. How can you not question this?

The number one most wanted man for 10 years, and you dump his ass in the ocean. Yeah, makes perfect sense.

That was so they couldn't make his burial location a shrine, cuz it's a rule no shrines allowed if you dump someone in the ocean and don't have a body, ask jeebus, it's a universal given across all religions, even humanists and atheists.

Nope, no shrines, statues, the house he was shot in will need to be shot into space as well.

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BigMac;170866
This is like claiming to have killed Santa Claus, and to have disposed of his body at sea, but backing up the claims with his DNA.

Yes

He was dumped in the ocean and therefore no 3rd party can confirm anything but we did this out of respect for his religion and so that his followers can't build a shrine, even though a body isn't needed for a shrine.

I have a photo and DNA test to prove it if you have any doubts.