So without further ado, I am now bringing The Ghostbusters Fact List to the new boards, as soon as Matthew is finished organising the entiries it'll be posted here in this topic.
I have now spoken to Matthew (Dr. Riddle) he has informed me that the reformatting of the list has gone on swimmingly…is that a word? And that he's hoping to have it finished for the end of the week.
The Ghostbusters Fact List, in conjunction with Ghostbusters Omnibus Timeline
The Ghostbusters Fact List
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21 years, 4 months ago
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21 years, 4 months ago
It's Coming… 
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21 years, 2 months ago
thats crazy. lol.
though in a sense whatever the movies have is the closest to cannon, since aykroyd and ramis can pretty much give us anything.
um…i doubt egon is younger than peter and ray was born in 58. sorry but no. oh im sure dan would love to see that but no. egon is oldest. winston 2nd oldest, then ray and then peter.
52 or 53 for ray. dan is july 1, 1952. elwood is december 6, 1953.
bill murray is younger than dan.
i think the fanficcers were smoking something when they started making some of those dates.
though in a sense whatever the movies have is the closest to cannon, since aykroyd and ramis can pretty much give us anything.
um…i doubt egon is younger than peter and ray was born in 58. sorry but no. oh im sure dan would love to see that but no. egon is oldest. winston 2nd oldest, then ray and then peter.
52 or 53 for ray. dan is july 1, 1952. elwood is december 6, 1953.
bill murray is younger than dan.
i think the fanficcers were smoking something when they started making some of those dates.
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21 years, 2 months ago
For your information the birth year info was official. It came from the cartoons and GBI.
And they're the characters' birthdays, NOT the actors'. The actors' ages have absolutely nothing to do with this.
And folks, just a heads up, the Fact List is almost done…
And they're the characters' birthdays, NOT the actors'. The actors' ages have absolutely nothing to do with this.
And folks, just a heads up, the Fact List is almost done…
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21 years, 2 months ago
NileQT87-Solo_Blues
i think the fanficcers were smoking something when they started making some of those dates.
I'm guessing you don't write fiction for a hobby then do you?
Just don't say that kind of thing around the large gathering of fic writers, they might not like it
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21 years, 2 months ago
Get 'er fanboys!
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21 years, 2 months ago
NileQT87-Solo_Blues, as the guy who actually put together the Timeline, I can assure you that I took no drugs other than the occasional allergy pill during its creation.
The birthdates of the Ghostbusters are drawn from different sources, and most of them at least partially backed by being official, Columbia Pictures licensed material.
To summarize:
Venkman Year of 1954 derived from age listed in Ghostbusters International rule book. The exact date of birth is fan conjecture (Dr. Riddle provided the date, which he got from a fan site) but it matches a “range” of dates created by the RGB episode “Mean Green Teen Machine”, where Venkman claims to be a Scorpio.
Ray Year of 1959 derived from on-screen reference in “It's About Time” Exact date is, admittedly, fan conjecture to the best of my knowledge.
Egon Possibly the most solid date of all: the 1957 birth year not only matches a reference to his age in the GBI book, but also the idea that he celebrates his 40th birthday in 1997 (the XGB episodes “Sphinx” and “Back In The Saddle”). The date again comes from “Back In The Saddle” which establishes it as about a week before Thanksgiving. A little checking and I discovered that Harold Ramis was born on November 21–and November 21, 1997 was about a week before Thanksgiving that year.
Winston Admittedly, this is the shakiest one. The exact date comes from Riddle's source, while the year was from arbitrarily adding 10 years to the age in GBi. It is strong fan assumption, backed up by some of the remarks in the GB1 script that weren't included in the final film, that Winston served in Vietnam–and a birth year of 1963 would've simply made him too young.
Janine She graduated in 1977 (“Brooklyn Triangle”) and is a Scorpio (“The Crawler”), giving us a “range” of Oct 23-Nov 22, 1958. The exact date of October 28 is arbitrary, but suggested by that being the birthdate of one Annie Potts
Dana Again, year derived from GBI. The script for GB1 insinuates that Dana is yet another Scorpio, but I decided to go with the same birthdate as Sigourney Weaver for a little variety.
Louis Year is actually derived straight from GB1 dialog: he throws his party to celebrate 4 years as an accoutant. Thus, assuming he went to college for 4 years after high school, he's 26 in 1983 and thus born in 1957. The date is derived from Rick Moranis's birth day.
(The online version of the Timeline still lists 1958 from an erroneous reference; I haven't been able to correct it yet due to my computer problems–the update is still sitting on my hard drive)
So no, I didn't pull those dates out of nowhere (for the most post). Just because Egon acts older than Venkman doesn't mean he is–it just means he's more mature. There is a difference
The birthdates of the Ghostbusters are drawn from different sources, and most of them at least partially backed by being official, Columbia Pictures licensed material.
To summarize:
Venkman Year of 1954 derived from age listed in Ghostbusters International rule book. The exact date of birth is fan conjecture (Dr. Riddle provided the date, which he got from a fan site) but it matches a “range” of dates created by the RGB episode “Mean Green Teen Machine”, where Venkman claims to be a Scorpio.
Ray Year of 1959 derived from on-screen reference in “It's About Time” Exact date is, admittedly, fan conjecture to the best of my knowledge.
Egon Possibly the most solid date of all: the 1957 birth year not only matches a reference to his age in the GBI book, but also the idea that he celebrates his 40th birthday in 1997 (the XGB episodes “Sphinx” and “Back In The Saddle”). The date again comes from “Back In The Saddle” which establishes it as about a week before Thanksgiving. A little checking and I discovered that Harold Ramis was born on November 21–and November 21, 1997 was about a week before Thanksgiving that year.
Winston Admittedly, this is the shakiest one. The exact date comes from Riddle's source, while the year was from arbitrarily adding 10 years to the age in GBi. It is strong fan assumption, backed up by some of the remarks in the GB1 script that weren't included in the final film, that Winston served in Vietnam–and a birth year of 1963 would've simply made him too young.
Janine She graduated in 1977 (“Brooklyn Triangle”) and is a Scorpio (“The Crawler”), giving us a “range” of Oct 23-Nov 22, 1958. The exact date of October 28 is arbitrary, but suggested by that being the birthdate of one Annie Potts
Dana Again, year derived from GBI. The script for GB1 insinuates that Dana is yet another Scorpio, but I decided to go with the same birthdate as Sigourney Weaver for a little variety.
Louis Year is actually derived straight from GB1 dialog: he throws his party to celebrate 4 years as an accoutant. Thus, assuming he went to college for 4 years after high school, he's 26 in 1983 and thus born in 1957. The date is derived from Rick Moranis's birth day.
(The online version of the Timeline still lists 1958 from an erroneous reference; I haven't been able to correct it yet due to my computer problems–the update is still sitting on my hard drive)
So no, I didn't pull those dates out of nowhere (for the most post). Just because Egon acts older than Venkman doesn't mean he is–it just means he's more mature. There is a difference
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21 years, 2 months ago
::scratches her head on all this conjectural stuff::
ah well, you might not have been smoking anything, but if you dont know something why dont you just leave it blank for the fanficcers to sort of figure it out themselves. also note i was not saying that anybody whos used these dates were smoking something, its a figure of speech for me. kinda like ‘what in the world are they talking about?’ no offense was meant.
i tend to use actors birthdays and ages unless it is clearly stated from a primary source that clearly states it. for example with elwood. aykroyd put the dec. 6, 1953 date right on elwoods drivers license, therefore its cannon. if it was just some fanficcers or cartoons date, i wouldnt call it cannon.
it depends on your point of view and the way you write your fanfics.
ah well, you might not have been smoking anything, but if you dont know something why dont you just leave it blank for the fanficcers to sort of figure it out themselves. also note i was not saying that anybody whos used these dates were smoking something, its a figure of speech for me. kinda like ‘what in the world are they talking about?’ no offense was meant.
i tend to use actors birthdays and ages unless it is clearly stated from a primary source that clearly states it. for example with elwood. aykroyd put the dec. 6, 1953 date right on elwoods drivers license, therefore its cannon. if it was just some fanficcers or cartoons date, i wouldnt call it cannon.
it depends on your point of view and the way you write your fanfics.
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21 years, 2 months ago
And no offense was taken, either.
By the way, just so you know…I am one of the fan fic guys… (^_^) http://www.ectozone.com/ff.html
Unless Kingpin wants it otherwise, I'm relocking this topic until the Fact List is actually done
If you want to discuss this specific matter further, since it's really my “facts” you're disputing, please do so here:
http://www.gbcentral.com/viewtopic.php?t=176
By the way, just so you know…I am one of the fan fic guys… (^_^) http://www.ectozone.com/ff.html
Unless Kingpin wants it otherwise, I'm relocking this topic until the Fact List is actually done
If you want to discuss this specific matter further, since it's really my “facts” you're disputing, please do so here:
http://www.gbcentral.com/viewtopic.php?t=176
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21 years, 1 month ago