Everybody has disagreements with some of the awards the Academy has given. For me it's Tommy Lee Jones winning over Ralph Fienesse and John Malkovich back in 94. Also Forrest Gump winning for best special effects over The mask and True Lies.

Brilliant, insightful journalism.

This is more of a Myspace journal entry than a message board discussion.

Tommy Lee Jones winning in my mind isn't a “worst mistake”. He had tough competition from two well known films, but Tommy deserved to win the Oscar as much as the other two, he was extremely good in The Fugitive.

I think Forest Gump won the Best Special Effects Oscar for how it integrated Gump into the historical footage… whilst The Mask did use a lot of effects, it may not have been as visually impressive as Gump… and there really weren't too many special effects in True Lies… I don't think True Lies would've won it if Gump hadn't.


I implore you to not keep going on about the Oscars, you haven't set a great example with them so far… and this thread is just going to provoke arguments.

Kingpin;161162
Tommy Lee Jones winning in my mind isn't a “worst mistake”. He had tough competition from two well known films, but Tommy deserved to win the Oscar as much as the other two, he was extremely good in The Fugitive.

I think Forest Gump won the Best Special Effects Oscar for how it integrated Gump into the historical footage… whilst The Mask did use a lot of effects, it may not have been as visually impressive as Gump… and there really weren't too many special effects in True Lies… I don't think True Lies would've won it if Gump hadn't.


I implore you to not keep going on about the Oscars, you haven't set a great example with them so far… and this thread is just going to provoke arguments.

You do realise that in True Lies they had to use a lot of CGI to make it look like Arnold was flying a jet. And then there's the scene where the bridge gets blown up. That probably took hours to build the sets for the bridge. So what you said is wrong.

I know, but it's the use of the CGI, as well as how well it's been done. I bet there were plenty of people who at the time didn't know that sequence was CGI.

I don't really understand why the majority of your posts are about Oscar “blunders” and not Ghostbusters, given the title of the message board, lol.

But yea, Tommy Lee Jones was phenomenal in The Fugitive. That's a well deserved win. The other two were amazing, as well, but Tommy Lee Jones definitely deserved his Oscar for this one.

The fact that you're shocked that The Mask shows that you really do hold comedy in a much higher regard than the Academy. Comedies very rarely win these major awards, as evidenced by Ghostbusters not winning awards when it was such a worldwide hit. The Mask used goofy, very fake looking effects. It was all meant to look like a cartoon. Forrest Gump nearly seamlessly edited Tom Hanks into footage from the past and made it seem as if he was actually there.

You've already established in your other thread:

“I'm not a huge fan of most of the 70s movies except for Star Wars and One flew over the cukoo's nest.”

“I just don't really like Romantic comedies.”

You're not setting the bar high for yourself at all by making comments like this. It just makes you seem incredibly biased and close-minded about the movies you watch. It makes you seem like you have one very specific taste in movies (comedies), and that everything else is “boring” or “doesn't deserve to win”. Dramas and intellectual films are what win awards, that's just the way it is. And the majority of the time, those movies are absolutely phenomenal. You have already stated that you don't like the Godfather, which is one of the greatest films of all-time in most people's opinion. Its just a little funny that you expect to be taken seriously when you're making posts like this that completely show a bias towards comedies and against classic films.

To be honest, I could care less what the Oscars pick. They don't know a good movie from a bad one anyways.

As said in this thread and the other, they don't pick comedies very often and to be honest who cares who they pick.

As for all this “you ain't earning points to make comments” there are reasons I don't post much in forums anymore, and its that superficial upper crust comments like that that annoy me to no end. If your better than us, then go open your own web site and pick who comes in. This is a open forum, and yes it has rules, but its open.

Doctor Venkman;161190
You have already stated that you don't like the Godfather, which is one of the greatest films of all-time in most people's opinion. Its just a little funny that you expect to be taken seriously when you're making posts like this that completely show a bias towards comedies and against classic films.

You are kidding right?! Don't ever walk into any argument with the “It's a classic” statement.

First off, yes I do enjoy The Godfather (well the second one more but still) but the movie can at times really drag and be boring, and lets face it, a lot of us grew up during or after the time of MTV videos and things having to be fast paced. It should be understandable that some don't like slower movies. I've heard many argue that Ghostbusters takes too long to get to the point. I personally think the pacing is fine, but I'm a fanboy of Ghostbusters so what do I know. But understand different opinions and points of view may help better than to drag out shallow comments like its a known classic. Yeah its a Classic I guess, but that doesn't mean everyone likes it.

devilmanozzy;161191
As for all this “you ain't earning points to make comments” there are reasons I don't post much in forums anymore, and its that superficial upper crust comments like that that annoy me to no end. If your better than us, then go open your own web site and pick who comes in. This is a open forum, and yes it has rules, but its open.

Assuming that's directed at me, I never said “you ain't earning points to make comments”, nor did I imply that I am better than someone. I said that you can't expect to be taken seriously when you complain about extremely popular films as if they didn't deserve to win the awards they did, in favor of a low-brow comedy. That statement stands firm. A lot of people will not take someone seriously if they complain non-stop about how a comedy didn't win an Oscar over an intellectual drama such as Forrest Gump. You just won't be taken seriously. I'm not saying the OP's opinion is wrong. Its his opinion… he can think what he wants. Just like I'm entitled to my opinion, and can think the guy is whacked out and shouldn't be taken seriously.

devilmanozzy;161192
You are kidding right?! Don't ever walk into any argument with the “It's a classic” statement.

First off, yes I do enjoy The Godfather (well the second one more but still) but the movie can at times really drag and be boring, and lets face it, a lot of us grew up during or after the time of MTV videos and things having to be fast paced. It should be understandable that some don't like slower movies. I've heard many argue that Ghostbusters takes too long to get to the point. I personally think the pacing is fine, but I'm a fanboy of Ghostbusters so what do I know. But understand different opinions and points of view may help better than to drag out shallow comments like its a known classic. Yeah its a Classic I guess, but that doesn't mean everyone likes it.

I'm not sure you understand the term “bias”, lol. Bias = a particular tendency or inclination, esp. one that prevents unprejudiced consideration of a question; prejudice.

The OP is biased towards comedies = he tends to like comedies and values them more than classic films that are very popular (that's his opinion).

I didn't say that a classic is liked by everyone. But classics are classics for a reason, and that reason is that they are liked by a vast majority of the population.

And by the way, you shouldn't be giving me advice about using “it's a classic” as a point in my argument, when you actually just used “I grew up watching MTV, I need things to be fast paced.”

Compared to some of the movies of the 40s and 50s, The Godfather probably is faster-paced.

Heck, I'm not particularly interested in The Godfather trilogy… but I know, as it's part of universal knowledge… that its a classic movie.

You know that if they were preserving movies from the destruction of the Earth, The Godfather would have a guaranteed space… The House Bunny, Observe and Report and Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle would be left to burn as the planet was reduced to a crisp.